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	<title>Comments on: Creating Climate Conclusions</title>
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		<title>By: The Aitch</title>
		<link>http://www.standingcheese.com/2008/07/10/creating-climate-conclusions/#comment-726</link>
		<dc:creator>The Aitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think about this: If Al Gore had never been born, woudl there still be global warming?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think about this: If Al Gore had never been born, woudl there still be global warming?</p>
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		<title>By: standingcheese</title>
		<link>http://www.standingcheese.com/2008/07/10/creating-climate-conclusions/#comment-717</link>
		<dc:creator>standingcheese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or it could show 2003 was an anomaly since that one year skews the trend.  After I posted the chart I really realized how terrible of an example it was to use it to get my point across, but I'm used to making myself look bad so it's no big deal.

I believe if our time is up on this planet it's up, and not even a return to living in caves and hunting and gathering for survival is going to stop it, so I see no point in allowing climate change authorities to dictate how we live.  Better to burn out than fade away, or something like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or it could show 2003 was an anomaly since that one year skews the trend.  After I posted the chart I really realized how terrible of an example it was to use it to get my point across, but I&#8217;m used to making myself look bad so it&#8217;s no big deal.</p>
<p>I believe if our time is up on this planet it&#8217;s up, and not even a return to living in caves and hunting and gathering for survival is going to stop it, so I see no point in allowing climate change authorities to dictate how we live.  Better to burn out than fade away, or something like that.</p>
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		<title>By: jwer</title>
		<link>http://www.standingcheese.com/2008/07/10/creating-climate-conclusions/#comment-716</link>
		<dc:creator>jwer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With a graph like that, you draw a straight line through the middle of the plot to reduce the effect of variation and see the trend. 

Doing that with your small sample shows that average days over 80 degrees have trended from below 30/year to above 40/year in 5 years, which is significant.

I'm not concerned about the Earth's health; it's 4B years old, it'll be fine. We are an infestation. I am, however, concerned that we will alter it enough that we won't be able to live on it, and more immediately, I'm concerned that things will get bad enough in already marginal places to make things bad for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With a graph like that, you draw a straight line through the middle of the plot to reduce the effect of variation and see the trend. </p>
<p>Doing that with your small sample shows that average days over 80 degrees have trended from below 30/year to above 40/year in 5 years, which is significant.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not concerned about the Earth&#8217;s health; it&#8217;s 4B years old, it&#8217;ll be fine. We are an infestation. I am, however, concerned that we will alter it enough that we won&#8217;t be able to live on it, and more immediately, I&#8217;m concerned that things will get bad enough in already marginal places to make things bad for me.</p>
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		<title>By: standingcheese</title>
		<link>http://www.standingcheese.com/2008/07/10/creating-climate-conclusions/#comment-714</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assuming climate change is occuring, where is the unequivocal proof it is caused by humans?  Why can it not be a natural occurance?  And why are the top climate change alarmists so interested in scaring the shit out of the developed world &lt;a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/06/congrats_to_china_new_1_emitte.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;but not so much&lt;/a&gt; the developing world?  When was the last time Al Gore took his PowerPoint presentation to Beijing?

I'm not saying conclusively that climate change isn't happening.  I'm just not sold that my driving a car and heating my house is the cause, and I'm not willing to believe that it's going to kill the world because some people with agendas say so.  Sorry.

Also, An oil spill in P.W. Sound is a drop of sludge in an olympic size swimming pool that has nothing to do with climate change.  And, while it'll never be what it was before the accident (but forests aren't after wildfires and such either), &lt;a href="http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education/stories/oilymess/oily06_recover.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;the sound is by no means dead&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assuming climate change is occuring, where is the unequivocal proof it is caused by humans?  Why can it not be a natural occurance?  And why are the top climate change alarmists so interested in scaring the shit out of the developed world <a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/06/congrats_to_china_new_1_emitte.html" rel="nofollow">but not so much</a> the developing world?  When was the last time Al Gore took his PowerPoint presentation to Beijing?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying conclusively that climate change isn&#8217;t happening.  I&#8217;m just not sold that my driving a car and heating my house is the cause, and I&#8217;m not willing to believe that it&#8217;s going to kill the world because some people with agendas say so.  Sorry.</p>
<p>Also, An oil spill in P.W. Sound is a drop of sludge in an olympic size swimming pool that has nothing to do with climate change.  And, while it&#8217;ll never be what it was before the accident (but forests aren&#8217;t after wildfires and such either), <a href="http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education/stories/oilymess/oily06_recover.html" rel="nofollow">the sound is by no means dead</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: James Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.standingcheese.com/2008/07/10/creating-climate-conclusions/#comment-713</link>
		<dc:creator>James Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no doubt whatsoever that climate change is happening. I know from personal experience. When I was a kid (I grew up in Maryland) we had a snowstorm that almost covered the entire door. Those simply don't happen in Maryland anymore.

I travel (when was the last time you left Reisterstown, Cheese?).
It is a fact that polar ice is melting and that sea levels are rising as a result.  Next time you go to an island, ask somebody if the coastline is farther in. If they say "yes", this is because the sea level is rising. 

Buy a plane ticket to Alaska and ask an Eskimo if there's less ice up there. Bring me back some fish from Prince William Sound, if you can find any that weren't killed off as the result of the Exxon Valdiz oil spill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no doubt whatsoever that climate change is happening. I know from personal experience. When I was a kid (I grew up in Maryland) we had a snowstorm that almost covered the entire door. Those simply don&#8217;t happen in Maryland anymore.</p>
<p>I travel (when was the last time you left Reisterstown, Cheese?).<br />
It is a fact that polar ice is melting and that sea levels are rising as a result.  Next time you go to an island, ask somebody if the coastline is farther in. If they say &#8220;yes&#8221;, this is because the sea level is rising. </p>
<p>Buy a plane ticket to Alaska and ask an Eskimo if there&#8217;s less ice up there. Bring me back some fish from Prince William Sound, if you can find any that weren&#8217;t killed off as the result of the Exxon Valdiz oil spill.</p>
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